4 Ways We Are Making Buying Insurance Easier

Buying insurance has always been a hassle for most people. I am fully aware that of the stereotype of the high pressure insurance salesman, pushing the client to spend more "for the family's sake". Life insurance agents are painted as cheesy villains, much like used car sales people. I remember commercials on TV that would mention "no salesman will call on you", which implied that you could get a policy without that horrible person coming to your home.

As an agent who has been in the business for years, I can attest that there are a few bad apples in the business. However, those people generally don't last long. Not working in the interest of the client (and only for a commission) eventually weeds them out. And the vast majority of us are generally doing what we think is in the client's interest. 

With all of that said, and against a backdrop of Covid-19, we at Surf Financial Brokers have taken measures to make purchasing life or disability insurance as easy as possible for you. Here are a few ways we have done this:

1. Our quoting engine in the top right corner of the page. Even though this is from just one of our carriers, it gives you a ballpark of what a policy may cost. You know your budget better than we do. Find out what you can afford and work from there. Whether you are seriously considering purchasing a life or disability policy, or just "kicking the tires", you can figure it out without an agent looking over your shoulder. 
2. Our scheduling calendar. Rather than trade emails back and forth to determine a time to discuss your insurance needs, you can now see what times we have available and schedule a time that works for you. We'll give you a call to discuss your needs and go from there. Our calls rarely last more than 30 minutes. 
3. Phone applications. As mentioned in an earlier post, we can take your application over the phone in most instances. Some of our carriers prefer to do a "drop ticket", in which we get your basic information and they have an underwriter take the rest of your information directly. Either way, you can be in the comfort of your own home or office without having to travel to an insurance office. 
4. Contactless delivery. Several of our insurance companies have now made necessary changes to get you your policy without having an agent have to be there to get signatures. 

One of the few good things the pandemic has brought about was much needed change to an industry that sorely needed it. And to honest, it's made our work easier too. Speaking for myself, I can now spend less time prospecting and more time helping the clients we have. As a result, our clients know that we will be available if needed. That gives them peace of mind knowing that their families' financial security is taken care of, and not wondering if the agent who sold them a policy is still in the business.

We realize that you can get a life or disability policy (we also offer a full line of ancillary products) anywhere, but we hope that by making these minor changes you will decide to give us an opportunity to help you secure your family's needs. 

And as always, stay healthy.

Chris Castanes is the president of Surf Financial Brokers, helping people find affordable life and disability insurance coverage. He's also is a professional speaker helping sales people be more productive and efficient and has spoken to professional and civic organizations throughout the Southeast.  

The "Why" of Insurance Sales

Last week I was listening to an life insurance selling podcast (yes, I'm a nerd) and the topic was on why people get into selling insurance and the motivation to stay in the business. In other words, if someone were to ask me why I sold insurance, what would my response be?

Naturally, the correct answer was that agents want to help people protect their families' financial security. They gave examples of handing claims checks to grieving widows who asked, "Am I going to be okay?" while small children played in the background. Knowing that this family could stay in their home while making a commission was their calling and these agents felt like they had accomplished something when they convinced the client to buy a policy.

On the other hand, agents who were in the business just for the money were the ones who never lasted long. Their intentions were short-sighted and self-centered. I began to ask myself questions. Was this me? Am I making this all about me? Am I a bad person?

I thought back to 1985 when I first got into the insurance business. At 23 years old I really didn't know what to do with my business degree from North Carolina State University. No one was beating down my door asking me to come work for them and my savings was starting to shrivel, so I answered a classified ad in the local newspaper. "Make $20k a year, no experience necessary". 

Not being jaded enough at the time, I believed everything that the recruiter said. The great pay and working for a top-notch company was going to be the answer to all of my dreams. Looking back though, he never mentioned anything about helping families out when their time of need came. And the accident plan we sold paid a whopping $37.50 each day someone was confined to the hospital. The plan was a loser and my co-workers and I probably knew it. 

I left that job and moved on. Eventually I worked for companies that I had actually heard of. Some of those companies had training programs and from time to time I would hear the old "why are you selling insurance" question posed again. 

My position had changed though. Now I had become a student of the game. I did enjoy helping families and the proof was in my first claim check delivery. The carrier I was working with would ask us to deliver smaller claims (under $10,000) in person. This was to accomplish two things: 1) We could express our sympathies in person for the loss of a loved one and 2) to get referrals. In regard to the latter, I could usually get a few names after handing someone a check for a few thousand dollars, so that was easy. 

My first claim check delivery was too an elderly gentleman in a small town. At first I thought he was the deceased and was a bit confused. The house was old and there was a wooden wheelchair ramp which had seen better days. When the gentleman came to the door he acknowledged who he was and clarified that his son had been the one that died. He told me how his son, a truck driver, had been found dead in the cab of his semi, which was now parked in front of the house. Apparently a heart attack was the cause.

At that moment I realized that this man was in emotional pain and I was doing something good by bringing him this check. He beamed as he mentioned that this was the first good news he had received in a while. On top of it all, I learned that I was his first visitor in a few days as well, and since he was wheelchair bound, he didn't get out much. We talked for over an hour as he told me about his son and his own career. I found my "why". That short amount of time with him had brightened his day as well as my own. 

Over the years my "why" changed for the better. Over the years I've delivered several checks (most companies mail them out nowadays) but I still think back to that gentleman who helped me understand that my real job isn't selling a policy, but convincing someone to let me help them secure their finances at a time of loss and sadness. 

If you need help finding a policy for you or your loved ones, let us know. You can book an appointment on our calendar and we'll help you over the phone. And as always, stay healthy.

Chris Castanes is the president of Surf Financial Brokers, as well as a professional speaker helping sales people be more productive and efficient.

My Plan Before Covid Struck

When I wrote my book on sales, "You're Going To Be Great At This!" in 2017, I had a strategy in mind for marketing it. I had been attending my local Toastmasters group for a few years and was working on my speaking skills. While there I met some people who were also aspiring authors and were working on presentation skills to support their books. 

My plan was to use my book, my speaking engagements and my insurance agency to all promote each other. If I spoke, I could mention the book and my agency. When meeting insurance clients, I could mention my book, etc. I could also speak locally to civic and other organizations on insurance topics, hoping to attain to clients, as well as talk up my book. 

Things were starting to happen. I was asked to speak to some new real estate agents about sales, and in my talks I mentioned the book, as well as life and disability insurance. One of the interesting things that happened was that I was enjoying it all. The change was fun and interesting. 

As I mention in the book, the first thing we are selling is ourselves, and I took that thought and ran with it. My agency grew a bit slowly, but steadily. Not only did I get a few more life insurance clients but I also met some agents who wanted to work with me. And I also met some great people along the way who were willing to give me some guidance, which I can always use. 

In a nutshell, I had created a PR firm with one exclusive client - me. 

Then the virus hit and things changed quickly. My insurance business dropped some, but not horribly. Since I typically meet people in coffee shops or their place of work, I just couldn't get out to see people with the quarantine in place.There was interest in some policies since a pandemic was hovering overhead. However the speaking engagements I had booked evaporated.  I was looking forward to doing one in particular, which was ironically at a long term care facility, speaking to a networking group consisting of good people who offer products and/or services to seniors. The people now had a whole new set of problems to deal with and I wasn't on their radar at all.

Taking a good look at the rest of the business community I could see others adapting to the brave new world. More video conferencing would have to happen. "Distancing while selling insurance" became my new mantra. And since I was selling myself, I needed to step up my social media game. More than ever, I was going to have to find more efficient ways to market my book, my insurance practice and my burgeoning speaking business. 

We've had the systems in place to take insurance applications over the phone for years. As a matter of fact, I've done it a handful of times and had no issues. Now I just needed to let people know that this was available as an option. Slowly, people are starting to realize that they can book an appointment with me online and have a good conversation to discuss their needs and budgets.

Using that knowledge, I transferred it to my other businesses. Where I was planning on speaking to a group in person, I can now use Zoom (or another app if needed) to speak to groups. And thankfully my book sales have continued to be steady. 

My hope is that when this is all over and we get back to a sense of normalcy again, I'll be able to get in front of a group, large or small, and give another one of my talks, either discussing insurance products we offer or the sales process. A colleague and good friend said that he thought the Covid situation was going to give us all a "reset" on all businesses, not just insurance sales. We are all having to make changes that may stay with us for a while. That's fine. I'm definitely flexible as long as it works. 

Let me know if you have had to make changes and if they are working. In the meantime, I hope you all have continued success and I look forward to seeing (or hearing) from you soon. And as always, stay healthy!

Chris Castanes is the president of Surf Financial Brokers, as well as a professional speaker helping sales people be more productive and efficient.

We Love Referrals!

When you find something you feel really good about, you tend to want to share it with your friends and family. At the same time, when you make a recommendation to someone, you feel like your reputation is on the line. 

We understand that. 

We want you to feel confident about referring your friends, family, and colleagues to us. That's why we think it makes a whole lot of sense to spell out exactly what we do when we get a referral. That way, both you and the person you refer to us know exactly what to expect and what not to expect from us. 
So, here's how we work with people who are referred to us:

Our initial meeting can either be at their home or at our office, and there is absolutely no cost for our initial meeting. 

Our conversations are 100% confidential, whether or not we eventually end up working together. 

We start with a review of what's important to them; in other words, what they value most in life. 

Next we move to a review of their current situation from a comprehensive financial basis. This is really the only approach that makes sense, because all the areas of our financial lives are interrelated. 

We finish the meeting by identifying strategies that may help them get from their current situation - where they are now - to "What's Important" - where they want to be. 

After our meeting, we leave it up to them to call us if they would like to visit further. 

We are insurace advisors, and we don't think any decision should be made in a high pressure environment. So, those we meet with should never expect us to pressure them into any particular course of action. We review, analyze, make our recommendations, then we let them make the decision. 

Should your referral decide to become a client, they should expect to hear from us on a regular basis. We believe that it is our responsibility to stay in touch with our clients. 

Thanks for your referrals! And as always, stay healthy!

Chris Castanes is the president of Surf Financial Brokers, as well as a professional speaker helping sales people be more productive and efficient.

Our Interview With Life and Health Agent Davan Johnson

I asked my good friend, Davan Johnson, to let me pick his brain recently. He's the owner and founder of Davan Enterprises Insurance Agency, as well as a integral part of his community and active member of several service organizations in and around his home town of Bristol, Tennessee. We discussed his insurance business, his thoughts on finding clients and sales in general. He offers great insight and I thought it would be helpful to know what makes us insurance agents tick. 

Thanks for talking with me Davan. First off, I'm curious as to how you got into the insurance business.

I had left a career in the restaurant industry that I thought I was going to retire from but quickly realized that I didn't actually own or have control of my destiny. So I was trying to decide what was next. I knew this time I wanted to do something that created residual and passive income. I chose insurance because I had been around it all my life with my mom using it as a fall back position. She was typically always an employee though, not an agent. But I remember pretending to fill out paper applications in an empty office whenever I had to be at the office with mom. She had a whole office building to herself with multiple offices, kitchen and waiting area. Additionally, I wanted to have a business that would allow me the time and freedom to choose my own schedule, as well as spend time with family for vacation and holidays. I had given up a lot of that working in the restaurant business.

Tell me how you find your prospects.

I used to do a lot of cold calling when I started out. I'd spend my time making lists and driving to make impromptu appointments, wasting a lot of gas going back and forth. Driving ALL day and almost all week to only get one or two appointments, and possibly resulting in one case or actual sale out of that. Now a lot of people make it in the business cold calling and that's great for them, but I have come to realize how I work best. So I begun doing more networking. Joining groups and setting up one-on-one meetings to get to know each other, which present warm leads and referrals. My business is about 90% referrals now. I work smarter, not harder, and these people are actually calling me. They are the ones have need, have time and money to spend on my services. I also positioned myself to offer unique products that most insurance agents don't so I can work with other agents and not be seen as a threat or competitor. 

Is there a product you think everyone should have?

Yes, I think there are several but one of the most uncommon ones is Legal Insurance. Unlike any other insurance we carry you don't have to wait for something BAD to happen before you can use it. You can be proactive. It's like an attorney on retainer with the power of a law firm in your pocket thanks to the apps and technology. When I was unemployed for a certain duration trying to figure what my next step was there were two budget items I was resolute not to cancel: My life insurance and my legal plan. People don't know this type of thing exists and yet it is so powerful giving people peace of mind so they don't have to check their checkbook before they can check their rights.

How do you prepare for a client meeting?

I actually use a worksheet to help guide me to the result of the meeting. But also, I try to review their social profiles to learn about them. I use the FOR method: Family, Occupation and Recreation to get to know them. It's all about finding out what is best for the client's needs.

Has Covid affected your practice?

Not much, because I have positioned my agency to be more of a referral business. Because of that it is important to keep the networking relationships strong. And during some of the downtime I've been able to re-evaluate systems in the my business.

What did you do with your first commission check?

Well, after I learned to reconcile a commission statement I most likely saved most of it because I didn't know when the next one would come. We got paid weekly.  I do know that I finally had some gas money and recouped what I spent on insurance licenses. I honestly don't remember how much my first check was which is sad, but I do remember my "can sell date" was 9/29/2012. That was the day I was officially able to sell and write my own policies. In my first month I had earned several awards, but no one was really there to mentor me on "cycles" of insurance or that when you get the BIG checks to hold some back for the slow times. Since then I pay myself a livable income and save the rest as an "emergency fund".  

Tell me about an usual or strange encounter you've had with a client.

The one encounter that comes to mind was when I was completing a life insurance application for a client. I had spoken to the client over the phone several times and the plan was that during our first in-person meeting we complete the app and submit it. This individual had the appearance of a male but when answering the questions on the application, everything was female. It was awkward for me because I had to get past some preconceptions and this was my first experience in this kind of situation. I basically decided that ultimately it was a decision for the underwriter and not me. So I filled out the application as the person responded and submitted it. It was issued! I had heard stories of people doing this before in order to get a more favorable rate, since females can get cheaper rates. Anyway, in this person's case it was legitimate and I was just unprepared for it. 

Thanks for your time, Davan! 

I hope you were able to get some quality information out of this interview. I always enjoy listening to successful agents and learning a thing or two. At Surf Financial we strive to grow and help our clients in the best ways possible. 

If you have any questions about this interview let us know in the comment section.  And as always, stay healthy

Chris Castanes is the president of Surf Financial Brokers, as well as a professional speaker helping sales people be more productive and efficient.

  

5 Ways to Use Life Insurance Without Dying

There's a school of thought out there that says you should "buy term and invest the difference".  The people who tell you this are not enthused when it comes to permanent (universal or whole life) insurance. Some think it can be too expensive and others think that the growth inside the policy is too conservative. To be fair, term life is much less expensive and the cash values accumulations in permanent policies, especially whole life, are easily outperformed by some investments.

As I have stated in previous posts, all life insurance products have a need, but not all people need all kinds of insurance. And the biggest problem with the "buy term and invest the difference" scenario is that the vast majority of people don't do the investing part. And the ones who do are subject to market risks. Losses can happen. 

One of the worst objections I've heard when talking life insurance to a prospect is "it's not going to help me when I'm dead". Of course not. Life insurance is primarily for your loved ones who may need those funds to stay in the home, pay off medical bills associated with your death, pay off credit card debt or help fund educational needs. 

With this in mind, there are policies out there that can help you before you die. Here are a few ways:

1. Retirement supplement. Unlike a tax-qualified retirement plan, you don't have to wait for until you're 59 1/2 to get your money without a tax penalty. And by taking out cash as a "loan" and using the policy as collateral, you can likely get the money tax-free. 
2. Living benefits. Many of the permanent life policies out there now have some form of living benefits that can be used for chronic illnesses or long term care situations. Depending on the carrier, these benefits may be included or offered as a riders (some at an additional expense). 
3. Critical illness riders. Again, these are sometimes offered as part of the policy and will let you use some of the funds if a major health event, like a stroke or heart attack, occurs.
4. Education costs. I've had clients "overfund" a policy and use the accumulated cash value to fund their children's college expenses. Did you know that when applying for student loans and financial aid, one must disclose any 529 plan or Coverdell plan? But you don't have to disclose life insurance. 
5. Warehousing money. Funds can be taken out of the policy as a loan, repaid, and used again. For example, I had a client who loved to buy investment properties. If he saw piece of land he wanted, he didn't go to the bank for a loan because he'd have to fill out a lot of paperwork and wait for a loan officer to decide if he qualified. Instead, he'd call the insurance carrier, get the money he needed for the down payment (a check would be sent overnight in some instances) and he would repay the loan within a few months. When he found another piece of property, he'd do it all over again. Smart!

One interesting note is that we now offer a term life policy which includes the living benefits (#2) as well. If you'd like to learn more or have questions about this, please set up an appointment with us in the right lower corner of the screen to discuss over the phone. And as always, stay healthy!

Chris Castanes is the president of Surf Financial Brokers, as well as a professional speaker helping sales people be more productive and efficient

Covid-19 and Disability Insurance

As the pandemic continues to work its way across the country, there is a lot of uncertainty. But one thing is for sure and that is that people who have disability insurance (DI) in place, whether through their employer or bought as an individual plan, are grateful to have it right now. And I don't think any of our clients will be cancelling their coverage any time soon.

More than ever Americans are learning how valuable their DI plan is. In a recent conversation with a local business owner, she asked me if I would prefer short or long term disability during a time like this. Not trying to sound trite, I said it would be best to have both. This is because the Coronavirus can put you in the hospital for a few weeks, and short term DI is good for that, but other ailments may not be getting treated in the meantime. Elective surgeries can be postponed, leaving people out of work for longer amounts of time. 

One thing to be aware of is that if your employer is offering to pay for your DI coverage, that benefit can be subject to income tax. And if that benefit is around 60-65% of your income (which is close to your take home pay), expect to get another haircut from Uncle Sam. In the same vein, if your company offers a Section 125 plan, in which you can have the premiums deducted "pre-tax", again you may be subject to taxes. 

On the other side of things are the people who have to get their own individual policies. This makes up the vast majority of my clients, who are business owners, self-employed realtors or other contract employees. Generally speaking, the people who purchase their own DI are cognizant of why they need this protection. If they can't work, they can't pay their bills. For a affordable premium, these folk can shift the onus to an insurance company. 

Since these entrepreneurs are in different fields of work, from barbers to realtors to attorneys, they all have differing risk factors with their jobs. But the one thing they all have in common is that they have to work with other people who may or may not be contagious. 

As I watch our local news, I see that restaurants are closing temporarily as employees begin to test positive. I applaud them for being proactive and taking action. But if that is your co-worker, how confident or nervous does it make you knowing that you could be out of work due to the virus?

In the upper right of this page you can run your own quote (it's an estimate subject to underwriting) for disability insurance. It only takes a few minutes so check it out. You may be surprised as to how affordable it really is. 

If you have any questions about our DI plans, or any other plans we offer, feel free to drop us a confidential message from our website. We will respond promptly. And as always, please stay healthy. 

Chris Castanes is the president of Surf Financial Brokers, as well as a professional speaker helping sales people be more productive and efficient.